Is Nutrition a Science?

In John Tierney’s blog, Gary Taubes is very critical of nutrition researchers:

The last place you want a science to find itself is where obesity research is today, with hypotheses of causation that can explain none of the pertinent observations, but yet are believed so fervently that no one can challenge them without being ostracized or declared a quack.

Fair enough. But Taubes (and Tierney) make the usual mistake of being too critical and not enough appreciative. I figured the real wisdom would be in the comments, and I was not disappointed. Taubes thought physics functioned better than nutrition. One comment:

It’s not that the scientists [in physics and nutrition] are any more or less skeptical, or that it takes any longer for the truth to emerge, it’s that the public is more likely to be paying attention [to nutrition] in the meantime. And human beings as a group are extremely bad at reasoning under uncertainty.

Quite right. If Taubes and Tierney have trouble seeing the big picture (although Good Calories Bad Calories is a big-picture book) surely most people, and other journalists, do much worse. Another comment:

People like the old “correlation does not equal causation” slogan, but it’s not correct to translate that as “correlations are completely uninformative,”

Well put. (I blogged about this.) My favorite comment, however, was not wise:

Tierney stresses the errors and biases of nutrition science – but what of its successes? [Good start.] . . . As Tierney surely knows, there is a solid body of research that cumulatively demonstrates the positive effects of a balanced diet, lots of fresh fruit and veggies, avoidance of saturated fats, moderate consumption of calories and regular exercise. This is common sense, and science backs it up.

The history of nutrition teaches the opposite. The most helpful findings have not been “common sense”. Folate supplementation greatly reduced birth defects. Not common sense. Eat oranges to cure scurvy: Not common sense. Pellagra due to nutrition rather than infection: Not common sense. The whole notion of vitamins: Not common sense (deficiency diseases were attributed to poisons). “Common sense” approaches to losing weight, such as “moderate calorie intake”: Failed miserably.

It’s true that traditional foodways often turn out to be very healthy, but they can’t be called “common sense” because they vary so much from one place to another.

Thanks to Dave Lull and Tim Beneke.

SLD Side Effects

On the SLD forums, you can read about many positive side effects of drinking oil. (One of them — better sleep — caused me to start studying the effects of omega-3.) Today three people posted some more:

  • I used to get those little cracks in the sides of my mouth. After just a few days on the diet, those are gone! I can open my mouth as far as it will go and no cracks!
  • My feet/heels don’t seem to be getting hard/cracked like they were
  • My skin feels softer
  • I haven’t had an asthma attack since starting in March.
  • Mental calmness. Situations that used to bother me now just slide away. It is hard to describe, but the peacefulness is wonderful.
  • I conclude that a big nutritional deficiency has been corrected.

    What fraction of people with (a) dry or cracked skin, (b) asthma, and (c) irritability have been told to consume more fat, I wonder? Zero? In the case of the asthma and irritability, I expect the improvement comes from a fat high in omega-3.

    Gary Taubes Interview

    From the Los Angeles Times:

    What is the evidence that the low-carb Atkins diet is healthy?

    First, all you’re doing is not eating foods that none of us ate up until a few hundred or thousand years ago.

    That’s a good way to put it. However, I wonder about processing: What about a food eaten thousands of years ago processed in a new way that increases speed of digestion? E.g., applesauce, orange juice. I believe fruit juice that tastes the same each time is very fattening, for example. Taubes says he lost about 12 pounds doing Atkins that he has kept it off. I lost and kept off the same amount of weight by reducing how much my food was processed. Oranges instead of orange juice. The whole interview is a summary of Taubes’ new book Good Calories, Bad Calories.

    More Taubes links. Taubes on Larry King Live. Radio interview with Taubes about epidemiology. In this interview, around the 22:00 mark, Taubes makes some very interesting comments about the evidence against trans fats. He says all the evidence against trans fats comes from a data set (the Nurses Health Study) in which trans fat intake is completely confounded with processed-food intake.

    Thanks to Dave Lull.

    Why Do We Like Warm Food?

    Yesterday I cooked some chicken. Today I reheated the leftovers. While eating them, I had a gruesome thought: Warm food is more pleasant than food at room temperature. Could the evolutionary reason be that it is better to eat freshly-killed meat (warm) than meat killed yesterday (room temperature)? Or did a preference for warm food evolve because it caused us to prefer cooked food (sterilized) to uncooked food (unsterilized)?

    Sure, thermoregulation is involved. We like warm food more when we’re cold; we like cold food more when we’re hot. Michel Cabanac has done brilliant experiments about our changing preference for hot and cold environments. But there is an overall preference for warm food. We like warm food even when we’re not cold.

    In spite of thousands of books and articles promoting this or that “natural” diet, it has been incredibly hard to determine what our ancient ancestors ate, the diet that presumably fits us best. One way has been to ask what modern-day hunter-gatherers eat. Not only do their diets vary widely but also they are clearly not typical: They live in meager environments. So that is hopeless, although Weston Price showed that there was a lot to be learned by studying earlier foodways. Price was surprised to find how much those ancient foodways differed from each other yet all produced good health.

    The most basic questions about our ancient diet remain unanswered. Did our ancestors eat lots of meat (savannah evolution) or lots of fish (aquatic ape theory) or neither (vegetarian proponents)? In spite of looking, Price never found a group that ate little meat that was in the best health, so I doubt the vegetarians. I suspect ancient peoples ate lots of fish at first and then started eating lots of meat as they spread away from the coasts. My main evidence for the fish is my omega-3 results that imply our brains work best with lots of omega-3. My main evidence for the meat is the huge popularity among boys of video games that contain elements of hunting. It’s hardly great evidence, of course, since the popularity of those games, and of actual hunting, has other plausible explanations.

    This is why my omega-3 self-experimentation interests me so much. It is a way to figure out the best diet for our brain. It relies on fast simple cheap easy-to-control experiments that anyone can do, rather than on epidemiology (correlations) or expensive slow hard-to-control clinical trials that often involve unusual people.

    How Interesting is Good Calories, Bad Calories?

    Very.

    The single most striking result in the history of the cholesterol controversy . . . passed without comment by the authorities: those Framingham residents whose cholesterol declined over the first fourteen years of observation were more likely to die prematurely than those whose cholesterol remained the same or increased. They died of cardiovascular disease more frequently as well.

    Around 1990, nineteen studies found that both women and men had higher total mortality at the lowest cholesterol levels (< 160). The increase came from more “cancer, respiratory and digestive diseases, and trauma.” From Gary Taubes’ fascinating new book Good Calories, Bad Calories.

    I expect these results are corrected for income but I’m not sure. A friend of mine is very poor. “You have the cholesterol level of a Chinese peasant [i.e., very low],” his doctor once told him.

    Interview with Taubes (October 9).

    Why We Need Enough Cholesterol

    Another excellent post from Michael Eades discusses a new study that found elderly people with lower cholesterol had faster cognitive decline than those with higher cholesterol. Suggesting that cholesterol protects your brain.

    There are several reasons to think this association reflects cause and effect. First, earlier studies found the same thing. Second, an earlier study found that people whose cholesterol was lowered had higher rates of violent death — an unexpected side effect that implies brain dysfunction. Third, as Eades points out, the brain contains lots of cholesterol.

    Thanks to Tom.

    What Causes Heart Attacks? (the Framingham Study)

    The Framingham Study is a famous long-term health survey. According to an NIH webpage, its goal was “to identify the common factors or characteristics that contribute to CVD by following its development over a long period of time in a large group of participants who had not yet developed overt symptoms of CVD or suffered a heart attack or stroke.”

    That is not quite right. It was originally called the Framingham Diet Study. Now it is called the Framingham Heart Study. Why the change? Well, Michael Eades, the author of Protein Power, found an early report on the findings of this study and wrote a fascinating post about it. One of his excerpts from the report:

    In undertaking the diet study at Framingham the primary interest was, of course, in the relation of diet to the development of coronary heart disease (CHD). It was felt, however, that any such relationship would be an indirect one, diet influencing serum cholesterol level and serum cholesterol level influencing the risk of CHD. However, no relationship could be discerned within the study cohort between food intake and serum cholesterol level.

    In the period between the taking of the diet interviews and the end of the 16-year follow-up, 47 cases of de novo CHD developed in the Diet Study group. The means for all the diet variables measured were practically the same for these cases as for the original cohort at risk. There is, in short, no suggestion of any relation between diet and the subsequent development of CHD in the study group.

    That is, the findings of the study completely contradicted what the researchers believed (as indicated in the name Framingham Diet Study). This is what Leonard Syme taught his introductory epidemiology students on topic after topic: Well-known conclusions are far less certain than you think.

    Thanks to Tom.

    How Accurate is Epidemiology? (part 2)

    Because Gary Taubes is probably the country’s best health journalist, his article in today’s NY Times Magazine (”Do We Really Know What Makes Us Healthy?”) about the perils of epidemiology especially interested me. It’s the best article on the subject I’ve read. He does a good job explaining what’s called the healthy-user bias — people who take Medicine X tend to make other healthy choices as well. Does wine reduce heart attacks? Well, probably — but people who drink more wine also eat more fruits and vegetables.

    The article falls short in two big ways. Taubes does a terrible job presenting the case for epidemiology. He mentions the discovery that smoking causes lung cancer but then disparages it by quoting someone calling it “turkey shoot” epidemiology. Actually, that discovery did more for public health than any clinical trial or laboratory experiment I can think of. Taubes fails to mention the discovery that too-little folate in a pregnant woman’s diet causes neural-tube and other birth defects. As the dean of a school of public health put it in a talk, that one discovery justified all the money ever spent on schools of public health (where epidemiology is taught). Taubes also fails to mention that some sorts of epidemiology are much less error-prone than the studies he talks about. For example, a county-by-county study of cancer rates in the United States showed a big change across a geological fault line. People on one side of the line were eating more selenium than people on the other side. Experiments have left no doubt that too-little selenium in your diet causes cancer.

    Even worse, Taubes shows no understanding of the big picture. Above all, epidemiology is a way to generate new ideas. Clinical trials are a way to test new ideas. To complain that epidemiology has led to many ideas that turned out to be wrong — or to write a long article about it — is like complaining that you can’t take a bike on the highway. That’s not what bikes are for. If only 10% of the ideas generated by epidemiology turn out to be correct, well, 10% is more than zero. Taubes should have asked everyone he interviewed “Is there a better way to generate new ideas?” Judging from his article, he asked no one.

    Now excuse me to take a selenium pill . . .

    How to Raise HDL

    This piece of a discussion at the Google Group sci.med.cardiology fascinated me:

    [My] HDL was always around 32, until I dropped the low fat nonsense about 7 years ago. Adding healthy fats and dropping carbs brings my HDL to about 70 while boosting my LDL almost none. And after the HDL shot up, the low-carbing continued to produce weight loss without difficulty. I’ve never felt better in my life and I am 63 now.

    I would like to raise my HDL. The advice I’ve read (do a long list of things) hasn’t helped. For example, one bit of advice was to lose weight. I did lose weight and my HDL briefly got much better. I kept the weight off but my HDL did not stay high. Whereas whatever this guy did had lasting effects. I tried to find out more about what he did but, alas, he didn’t answer my email.